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ca_redwards
11-20-2004, 05:33 PM
What can I do about this horrible situation?

Several months ago, we sought to buy a particular large-format print shop. We share a common tax lady with the sellers. The tax lady knows that their business has become "quite a little cash cow" since they had started it 23 years ago. They own their enormous homes, vehicles and all the fun toys with almost no debt. In their business, they've paid cash for almost everything, including one of the two buildings. And although they enjoy a reputation for quality work, they have basically stopped working it. The tax lady would have snapped it up herself, except that she is preoccupied with her own businesses.

Since we have never bought a business before and the sellers have never sold one, we asked our tax lady to recommend a business broker for us. She suggested her former neighbor, John Kavazanjian, of Shorewood Realtors, to moderate this transaction. He had us sign a dual-agency agreement, stating emphatically that he would represent both us fairly and professionally...

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Since we have only had experience with residential real estate lending, we had no idea how much time was needed for a business escrow involving an SBA loan. John, the self-proclaimed expert, actually asked us how long we wanted it to be! We had no idea. 30 days? 45 days? We'd only had experience with residential real estate investing. Without informing us that SBA loans typically take six months or more, he drafted a 45-day escrow for us to sign. We did. And we put down $25K...

When we asked him to recommend a lender, he would not. Naively, we suggested a bank that has done a fair amount of residential lending for us. Only later did we find out how much John pressured (and outright harassed!) their SBA lending department to do the loan quickly. Wisely, they slowed down to check the details. The price was rather low for a large-format printer (the sellers were glad that we wanted to own/operate the business, just as their family had), but ultimately the bank declined due to low sales for the current year (the three years before had been above $1M and growing). But 2004's YTD (at the end of July) was only $490K. The bank suggested that we ask a lower price for the business. John urged us to make an outside agreement with the sellers (keeping it secret from the bank) to "carry back" a private loan for the difference. It made us very uncomfortable that John wanted us to deceive our own bank.

When we approached the next lender, it became clear that there was a big discrepancy between the sales figures John had prepared and the tax returns that the sellers filed. During that loan application process, our tax lady actually redid the sellers' books, and amended/resubmitted their latest tax return (and they paid a lot more!). During this time, John called us several times daily, pressuring us to collateralize everything, including our primary residence. But this second bank also declined, stating that it would require an enormous effort to replace abandoned customers. And they informed us that SBA loans usually take several months to do. Meanwhile, John harshly criticized our business plan (to which he had contributed nothing) and questioned our creditworthiness (our personal fico scores are 650 and 790) to the sellers.

Nevertheless, I approached a third lender with continued enthusiasm and helpful (large print) ideas for improving the look of the bank itself. However, I warned them that our "dual-agency" broker was a notorious pest who would undoubtedly harass them, if given the chance. We instructed John not to call us more than once a day, and not to raise his voice or repeat himself endlessly when he did. Then he began to pressure us to remove our loan contingency. After we had submitted everything to this bank, we left to enjoy a quiet holiday weekend in the mountains. When we did not return his calls for those three days, John was angry and threatened to "kill the deal." And sure enough, he urged the sellers to issue a 24-hour notice to perform. We reminded him that we'd performed our part, and were just waiting for the bank's decision. Also, we pointed out that the CARS form he used states that at least 48 hours notice must be given. When they expressed doubts about the 2004 sales figures, we recognized that John had indeed killed the deal.

Yet, since John was brought into the deal to represent the sellers and us exclusively, I was somewhat surprised to learn that he now has the sellers' listing for their business. John abandoned us. He is no longer acting as a dual agent. And he set the price higher than what we had agreed. Apparently, he betrayed our dream for a bigger commission. But what really irks me is how he asked that escrow fees be deducted from our refund...

Dan Auito
11-21-2004, 12:10 AM
Ca Redwards, I would have used a real estate attorney to draft these peticular documents. Real estate agents are basically allowed to fill in the blanks but most often have to abstain from offering legal advice and they certainly can't draft any!

Wish you would have brought this to our attention before the fact as opposed to after, Who is holding the earnest money? no doubt it is probably the dual agents brokerage.

If you feel wronged then it is to your advantage to get in contact with your states real estate commission and present the facts, document everything you can and tell the managing broker that if you do not receive every penny of your deposit back then you will be sending the exact same documents to the commission and to the state regulatory commission that over see's the R.E. Comission board as well.

These two actions make brokers listen and often result in their quick compliance with your demands when they are justified. Let us know! Dan

Jack
11-22-2004, 10:53 PM
As a specialist in Mergers and Acquistions. We came to aware those unethical dealings all the tim. CAREDwards, your case is a typical botched up deal that right now can be resolved most likely by litigation. We have not hear the other two sides stories, so we cannot jump to the conclusion in favor of you. Before you got into litigation, however, you should seek Real Estate Commissioner to the rescure and file complaint as Dan had suggested.

ca_redwards
11-23-2004, 06:35 PM
Dear John,

I apologize for the Saddam quip that I included at the bottom of my most sincere "What can I do about this horrible situation?" question. Where I have been able to edit my message, I have removed that reference to your physical description. I will refrain from any such parody, since it dilutes the seriousness of my inquiry.

Obviously, my wife and I expect a full refund of all unspent money from escrow. All expenditures that continue to benefit the sellers should be deemed their sole responsibility. And those expenditures that benefit no one should be split. We should not be charged exclusively for anything. Readers everywhere agree.

The remainder of my message is factual and verifiable. It will remain as is. My intention is to rally an advocate to help secure our refund. It is not to slander.

I must ask you to stop including my wife in this matter. She had nothing to do with it. She only learned about it when you called her demanding an apology and retraction. The decision to compose and distribute my inquiry was strictly my own. Leave her alone.

Thanks for reading.

Dan Auito
11-24-2004, 02:24 AM
CA Redwards I'm not sure I'm following the Saddam thing but it looks as though your working through the situation. Keep us posted on the resolution phase with the lead broker and real estate commission!

DionEvalueMortgage
12-08-2004, 09:48 PM
Well, I guess the first place to start is do you still wish to purchase the operation?

This John guy sounds like a jerk. Unfortuantely, the commercial side of lending to a certain extent allows just about anyone to get involved in a deal even though they really bring nothing and I mean nothing to the table. With a contract and a naive borrower anybody can get consulting fees, brokerage fees etc.

Commercial loans are complicated. They are not the cookie cutter loans that residential people think they are. There are no easy answers every loan is extremely different from the next.

Another common error I find in these proceedings is the realtor agent who prepares the finacials for a borrower. Bad, Bad idea. When purchasing a business the transaction even if it is small should have some period of time for due dilligence. The terms of which should be setup by the seller and buyer. Basicly, the seller will allow the buyer to come in look at the books analyze the operation and verify the inforamtion and then use the information to obtain a commitment from a lender. My father once told me that every business has two sets of books...well if it is small family owned business, it just might! What's good for taxes is not good for a sale.

So again, I ask are you still looking to purchase this business?

I would be willing to assist you in this situation if you wish to contact me you may do so at diond@evaluemortgage.com - talk to you then!