donation button

[realestate]

Dan,malcolan and I were chating last night and thought a donate link might help this site, web sites aren't free why not put a donation button to help with cost's :SM083:

[Dan Auito]

Dan,malcolan and I were chating last night and thought a donate link might help this site, web sites aren't free why not put a donation button to help with cost's :SM083:

I think you guys are great. I just didn't want people to feel obligated or as though I was begging.

I would like to create a fund for the habitat for humanity, maybe we could earmark all donations to a worthwhile cause, Yes I could be considered a worthwhile cause but I'll hold out a little longer if your not to intent on giving me your money!

If you would like to donate in an off hand way maybe you could by a few books from Amazon and send them to friends and relatives, that would be a great way to educate people while you get credit for the gift! Hopefully they in turn would come to the site and become part of the family!

Thank you for your most excellent offer, it is sincerely appreciated! Dan

[Gulfman]

IMO, not a good idea. It provides the impression that the creator/owner of the site is a rookie and is cash strapped. Many many sites are geared towards eventually obtaining funds via sales of a product on their site.

Think of RE investing and rental properties...you must have reserves to function, rehab or whatever. If you attempt to obtain those funds via a donation on the site you've developed, then you didn't plan correctly.

Additionally, I guess we all dream that our creation will grow enormously in one month or two....that ain't going to happen in the real world unless you have such a unique product that everyone is desperate to have it. That ain't going to happen in the RE world 'cause many competing sites exist.

Also, what do you want your site to be? A plan and operating procedure is paramount, ease of use, supporting a wide range or targeting a specific market is also important. In other words, if you want LL's to participate, you can't just talk finances and other categories that are void of LL interest.

Gear a site to what the creator wants, but don't ask others to fund answers.

[Dan Auito]

I must say Gulfman, I agree with your mindset! The site was built for people to network and give each other resources and help regarding ALL facets of real estate investment.

I intend on running it for the next 20 years and am in no real hurry to attract just anyone, in fact by going slow we get to know each other and can help other folks by recommending each other to them if we see a way to do so.

Another big part of this site is to help the truly novice investor and keep them from getting burned by the Carlton Sh!+$ of the world.

I also like to see people try to sell their own properties while not using agents when possible, If they have time and the inclination then they should atleast try.

Landlording is one piece of the puzzle and if landlords wanted to gather to discuss those particular issues then this is a very welcome addition but I must say it is not the PRIMARY mission of the site, after all there is the best resource for that on the planet at www.mrlandlord.com and no one is going to out do Jeffrey.

I'm not in competition with anyone as far as I'm concerned, I just seek to network like minded individuals up who have a slant towards trying to help others as well as themselves with real estate.
Thanks for answering up Mike, your one of the pro's! Dan :SM023:

[karlpie]

I must say Gulfman, I agree with your mindset! The site was built for people to network and give each other resources and help regarding ALL facets of real estate investment.

**** And what a great intent for a website and might I say, well needed! None of us ever have enough information and we can all benefit from the knowledge of others. Kudos off to you dear sir!

I intend on running it for the next 20 years and am in no real hurry to attract just anyone, in fact by going slow we get to know each other and can help other folks by recommending each other to them if we see a way to do so.

Another big part of this site is to help the truly novice investor and keep them from getting burned by the Carlton Sh!+$ of the world.

**** I am so glad you had the guts to mention this scenario. I was one of the unfortunate souls that was desparate for the information and got "lured" into his magic world. What a joke! I'm still paying for it and because of it have been very, very leary now to take the plunge and invest .... even though I've got some nice properties to purchase right now.

I also like to see people try to sell their own properties while not using agents when possible, If they have time and the inclination then they should atleast try.

**** I agree even though I do have my license as you probably do too. I care too much for my people that I work with which is why I would much rather be of service to them in the investment world and be able to work with the "less fortunate" souls out there that are truly the ones that need my help more .... although it is not the cash cow that it could be doing it this way!

Landlording is one piece of the puzzle and if landlords wanted to gather to discuss those particular issues then this is a very welcome addition but I must say it is not the PRIMARY mission of the site, after all there is the best resource for that on the planet at www.mrlandlord.com and no one is going to out do Jeffrey.

I'm not in competition with anyone as far as I'm concerned, I just seek to network like minded individuals up who have a slant towards trying to help others as well as themselves with real estate.

**** Count me in to that. I've got to commend you as well as Brian and Dion and REI. You've all come to my rescue and I'm so glad that we've got a site here where we all are comfortable with exchanging ideas, suggestions and solutions. It's time that this business quit being so cut-throat .... there's enough to go around for everyone .... and it's time that we start taking more time to "nurture" those relationships we have or are pursuing.

Thanks for answering up Mike, your one of the pro's! Dan :SM023:

**** Double thanks to you Mike for being one of the pros we love having here!

[Aldo]

Landlording is one piece of the puzzle and if landlords wanted to gather to discuss those particular issues then this is a very welcome addition but I must say it is not the PRIMARY mission of the site, after all there is the best resource for that on the planet at www.mrlandlord.com (http://www.mrlandlord.com/) and no one is going to out do Jeffrey.

Danny boy, it's time to wake up and smell whatever one smells when they wake up (unless they, themselves, smell).

Your site blows his out of the water. His site has been there for seven
years. Yours hasn't been there for that many months. Fire me if you will, but I'd like to see your site to be the place to go for LL's with questions, problems, advice, suggestions and even occassional whines (vents). Having been on 'the other side of town' since it's inception, I can immediatley cite a lot of verifiable reasons for helping your site beyond its infancy.

Sing along with me. "Oh, Danny, boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling...................".

As an aside, you've got a pretty cool site.

[Dan Auito]

I'll bet you say that to all the boys! Thanks for the major vote of confidence! :SM003: You kill me man!

[realestate]

I think you're wrong every good fourm site I've been to has a donation button . Its the're so the people who enjoy the fourms and use the info can keep it there. Nothing is ever truly free. For what you get out of this site you should be able to give a couple dollars here and the're to make sure this site will be around.

[realestate]

IMO, not a good idea. It provides the impression that the creator/owner of the site is a rookie and is cash strapped. Many many sites are geared towards eventually obtaining funds via sales of a product on their site.

Think of RE investing and rental properties...you must have reserves to function, rehab or whatever. If you attempt to obtain those funds via a donation on the site you've developed, then you didn't plan correctly.

Additionally, I guess we all dream that our creation will grow enormously in one month or two....that ain't going to happen in the real world unless you have such a unique product that everyone is desperate to have it. That ain't going to happen in the RE world 'cause many competing sites exist.

Also, what do you want your site to be? A plan and operating procedure is paramount, ease of use, supporting a wide range or targeting a specific market is also important. In other words, if you want LL's to participate, you can't just talk finances and other categories that are void of LL interest.

Gear a site to what the creator wants, but don't ask others to fund answers.

He did not ask I did. Wake up this is a separate entity from his real estate projects. This site complements his book but being free forum based he should allow people to decide if the want to donate are not.

I feel a couple dollars here and there is fair. To insure this site stays around. Plus you would throw money a way by not being able to ask and receive good information. And my last point Dan puts in a lot of time on this he should be compensated for that time. :praise:

[Dan Auito]

You all are real diamonds and I feel that your company and participation are really reward enough and I really mean that. You in a sense are working too when you come here, you're giving your time and advice and of yourself just the same, maybe I should be paying YOU!

Really, if you wanted to support the site then just go to Barnes & Noble, Borders Books or Waldens and ask them to order a few copies of the book, this would be the very best thing you could do!!!!!

Then give those books to people who you feel could use them, this would be the absolute greatest thing you could do!!!

Thank you again for the effort to support our little home on the web! Dan :SM120: I feel the love.

[REIaddicted]

First, I think we all offer KUDO's to Dan. :SM117:

I agree, that the donation button should only be here if it is going to be and plainly stated that it will be donated to habitiat... Fine organization... I have volunteered my time there ( I am sure they are thankful that someone came behind and fixed my mistakes!)

But a donation button for the site... IMHO , the site will far better in retail sales of Dan's books and his help to others. I think the premice is here:

Dan started the site as an alternitive to all the hard core REI sites as a friendly place for newbies. In turn, they gain experience, offer advice, spread the word, people join and download the freebee's that Dan has. Then they hunger for more of Dan's word. They buy the books, praise the quality, bring people to the site.... and the chain continues.

Just my 2 cents
Lisa

[Dan Auito]

That sounds about right Lisa! Too many people are and where getting bad information and often taken advantage as well. The book certainly helps them to be protected but the site is for the people who come to it to network and share what they know with others and also for all the members to network with each other to help each other out by offering assistance where they can.

We are building a wonderful group of people here and all of us can log on twenty four hours a day seven days a week 365 days a year and get the help or post the same up for others to benefit from. You just can't beat a caring community of likeminded individuals working for the common good!

It feels great! :biggrin:

P.S. Another pet peave I had was other websites often restrict others from posting links to other websites, that is so defeating! How can you show people other great sites if you won't let them speak their piece?

I encourage everyone here to surf the web and bring the best of it back home here for us all to gain insights from. Dan

[REIaddicted]

That sounds about right Lisa! Too many people are and where getting bad information and often taken advantage as well. The book certainly helps them to be protected but the site is for the people who come to it to network and share what they know with others and also for all the members to network with each other to help each other out by offering assistance where they can.

We are building a wonderful group of people here and all of us can log on twenty four hours a day seven days a week 365 days a year and get the help or post the same up for others to benefit from. You just can't beat a caring community of likeminded individuals working for the common good!

It feels great! :biggrin:

P.S. Another pet peave I had was other websites often restrict others from posting links to other websites, that is so defeating! How can you show people other great sites if you won't let them speak their piece?

I encourage everyone here to surf the web and bring the best of it back home here for us all to gain insights from. Dan

YES! I LOVE the heartbeat of this site. The $ factor is going to be made in retail sales from others coming, learning, ordering, spreading the word.......

I have learned so much, I have a mentor, but yet..... I have NEED to belong here, offer here and ask here.
I also read and devore books, other sites, lots of different refferences..... Not all the CREI can be found on one site so the ability to offer links is fantastic !

All one heartbeat beating as one ! :SM056:

[REIaddicted]

I have a great deal of experience in fundraing and advocacy for non profit organizations? Mainly all diabetes related, but it is all marketing, and result target.

I learned it all as I was an intern for a major radio station in LA CA......

[Aldo]

No, silly. Not those. I mean URL's.

I very strongly support Dan's consent to post URL's here, which is something absolutely prohibited on the other side of town. Last year I put up a web site with the specific and stated intent to do nothing except offer help (in whatever form) to landlords. I had nothing to sell and did not ask for repayment of any kind. I did it be cause I live to help other landlords. I was not permitted to post the URL there. Go figger!

Long story, but in December the server crashed and (allegedly) had no back up. Everything, right down to the last period or coma, was totally lost. I'm working on rebuilding a new site which, at best, is a few weeks away. First, I must rebuild my business site, which was also lost.

[smidgen]

Lisa, you mentioned about diabetes events? May I ask what are those? I am diabetic and have been for 3 years now and I am a little isolated? I love MSNBC's Dlife because it is really wonderful for me! Today I am not feeling that good.... too many headaches to mention here. Anyway do you know of any sites that might have some information about diabetes that are not going to freak me out? The diabetes association is a little intense for me, I need something that is not too doomy?

thanks

[Dan Auito]

Smidgey, Howard Spiva is a huge advocate for the Diabetes foundations, he would certainly be able to offer some advice on this one.

[Debbie]

Also, Sharon,

REIaddicted hasn't visited for a few months. She's been really busy with her hubby, JohnMichael.

I understand that you can contact her at JohnMichael's site. However, I concur that Howard Spiva is the best person to go to. He is very active in the cause.
Way to go, Howard!

Debbie

P.S. - where have you been Sharon? You've been missed!

[SPIVALAW]

I am not huge!

[SPIVALAW]

Lisa, you mentioned about diabetes events? May I ask what are those? I am diabetic and have been for 3 years now and I am a little isolated? thanks


Are you type I or type II?

[Debbie]

I am not huge!

Whew! Good thing it wasn't me who made the "insulting" comment! :SM013:

[Dan Auito]

Well maybe just LARGE! Heh Heh Heh

[Debbie]

Oh Boy, Dan!

Since I've met Howard, I'd say that Howard is full of passioned.

Howard, joking aside, you have the body that makes people want to give you a great big hug! Just makes you feel good kind of guy! Doesn't matter if a persona is a man, woman or child. You have a very kind personality and body.

[SPIVALAW]

Well maybe just LARGE! Heh Heh Heh

I prefer fluffy.

and I am folic-lly challenged.

Not fat and bald :>)

[smidgen]

About where have I been? Well, I am dealing with my partner being in the hospital (she is o.k. but I thought that I was going to have to fly out to AZ) and the deal falling threw I said to myself that it is time to do research. So since I have a construction crew at my house every day I am focused on the details with that plus just plan reading and trying to squeeze the proverbial lemon for more money so I can get back to making something happen! I also have 4 more days until my probate parcel goes to it's final court date so I am lying very low because I am nervous, honestly.

I am a type 2 diabetic and my husband is a type 3. My numbers have been really good (90's for a low and 130 for the highs) but what I have is problem in dealing with stress when I have 5 things going on at once. My numbers go really high. I exercise almost every day but since the flooding and rain I haven't done it this week and I am getting these blasted headaches. It is like when you have too much sugar in your system and your body revolts on you. Man.... yesterday my vision was a little wacky (blurry and pulsating sort of) I tested ,it was high but I couldn't walk because of the weather so I just laid down and then.... my husband said I fell asleep on the couch? Right now I am just tired and a little blue because of the weather here but the headaches are sometimes unbearable I took a ibuprofin but I am not sure if it is o.k. or not? Don't get me wrong, I am not dying, I am just frustrated that I can't get rid of the headaches. Oh, by the way I am not on insulin yet, my doctor says that I am doing really well on the diet stuff (I have lost 40 lbs. so far) but since I have also diabetes in my family (father and mother) I am like this weird type 1,2, combination. My question is, are headaches a sign of the body needing insulin? If tomorrow my headaches don't get better I am calling my doctor to see if she can give me an answer?

Thanks Any Info Could Help

[smidgen]

Howard, the way I feel about "size" it is more like if you can maintain your sugars and you are large, I say WAY TO GO! I have lost a lot of weight and there are times I look at my body and say, " boy I didn't know I had that dimple there or gee, those stretchmarks are lovely." then I test my blood and the numbers are a little wacky? Losing weight is what you are "suppose to do" but for me, my body shape is going threw a lot of changes that are a little odd? Well, I should say my husband likes the smaller size I just want more stability to my sugars, the body is almost secondary to me, you know?

[SPIVALAW]

Trust me on this.

If you can go here for 2 weeks : http://www.pritikin.com/

They have medical classes, food, teach shopping and teach cooking and exercise....
Type II is some genetic but mostly low exercise and bad food (food labels lie).

As a Type II, You can learn how to never be diabetic again.

good luck
h

[SPIVALAW]

"I am just frustrated that I can't get rid of the headaches. "

This probably wont work but just humor me.

A lady showed me this when I couldnt find any medicine for a real real bad headache.

I have used it several times and it works repeatedly when I show others.

1) take your thumb of one hand,
2) and feel around on the other hand in the area just above your other thumb near the bend and below your pointer finger.
3) Search and Find a spot that when you press on it a little hard is sore.
4) If you find that sore spot, hold pressure there for as long as you can.
5) repeat the same action on your other hand.

headache let up?

[Aldo]

Howard, that actually does work. It works very much like dropping a sledge hammer on your bare foot. The pain is so severe that you don't even notice the headache.

[Debbie]

Howard, that actually does work. It works very much like dropping a sledge hammer on your bare foot. The pain is so severe that you don't even notice the headache.


:xxrotflma

:SM026:

[smidgen]

It is a wonderful morning today! No more headaches and I am going to go walking! The rain has stopped and I have until this afternoon before it starts up again. I want to get back up to 10,000 steps again like I used to before I moved from Boston. I love to walk and I always have it has just been since the construction, the flooding, and moving that has thrown me off my routine. The weight loss has been really slow and that is throwing me off! I want to lose another 50 pounds and I know that I will if I just keep it up with the walking I will do fine.

I love the headache relief method! I don't care if it hurts like a sledgehammer that hits my toe. I hate those type of headaches because they are blinding and when that happens I can't get anything done.

Now back to the real fun which is RE! Thanks Howard and everyone for the tips! I WILL remember that when it happens again! I am also going to look up the Pritikin diet because I haven't tried that, I am currently on a low carb diet with a lot of garden grown veggies thrown in. I have to be honest, my weakness is anything with cheese my husband calls me a "cheese head" because I love the stuff so much. It is funny but I am not even from WI? Anyway I am going to look into the Pritiken maybe they can give alternatives to cheese?

Thanks Again

[SPIVALAW]

Do you have a pedometer to count your steps??

Pritikin is not a diet it is a life style.
NO cheese!!! LOL

[smidgen]

Yep, I have two pedometers one for me and my husband.

About Pritikin... I know it is a lifestyle, I just can't leave my husband and go to FL. He doesn't do well alone he and housework don't mix well! Well, if there is a diet without cheese there BETTER be an alternative to the mix..... yogurt or something? I need yogurt for my throat problems the doc says.

I enjoy eating light very much because I feel better... much better! My favorite thing is salads with lt. dressing nothing heavy.

[SPIVALAW]

Be careful many folks take a 150 calorie salad and add 600 calories of dressing. LOL Might as well have a burger.

Pritikin has first class hotel suites at a yacht club.
Take hubby.

I have seen folks arrive at Pritikin in a wheel chair and walk out!

A friend of mine took her husband. He never exercised and refused anything healthy. He could hardly walk. After a week he caught the feavor and was racing me on the tread mill!!!

They have trainers, doctors, EMTs, therapist, nutritionist, and nurses on staff.

The food is gourmet level.

The facilities are resort quality.

The staff and doctors are compassionate-
You ever had a 2 hour doctor consult before?

They do full medical work up and evaluation.
They assign specialized exercise programs and supervise all activities.

During exercise they take blood presure and heart rate and closely moniter.
The classes vary from machines, pool, yoga, weights, walks... everything.

The best thing is the knowledge in the classes,
(medical, nutrition, psychological and cooking school)

All of this for less than whay I have spent on a vacation in Key West, Vegas or New Orleans.

Make it a great day!
Howard

[Aldo]

Coupla thinks here, though the first one is a question.

Do you know why there are so many commercial diet plans out there? Simple. It's because none of them work.

Smidgen, your hubby and I need to have a really long talk. There's no such thing as an alien cheese-head and you ain't from Wisconsin. Plus, in your defense, cheese is veeeery good for most people when consumed in FDA recommended portions........well, maybe a little more.

Light lunches are great as long as you continue to eat while it's light.

Howard, I took your advice and had a Big Mac and fries instead of a salad today.

Actually, I'm also on a diet and I follow it religiously. I quit eating in church.