Invest in Coastal Georgia

[SPIVALAW]

A Georgia Tech report predicts half again as many coastal Georgians by 2030

If you're planning to stick around coastal Georgia, you'd better move over.

About half again as many people are expected to populate the coast by 2030, according to a report commissioned by the Coastal Georgia Regional Development Center.

Over the next two decades, the report predicts, Georgia's six coastal counties and the next tier of four inland counties will grow to about 844,000 people.

Georgia Tech's Center for Quality Growth and Regional Development produced the report, in which population projections outstrip those from the State of Georgia Office of Planning and Budget.


The report combined data from the 2000 U.S. Census with more recent information, including building permits and certificates of occupancy from nine of the 10 counties, said Jason Barringer, research scientist with the Center for Quality Growth and Regional Development.

Don't look to local maternity wards to supply all those new people.

Instead, it's a previous baby boom that will contribute migrants from other parts of the country. Retiring baby boomers, to be exact.

"Most of the new growth will be from in-migration," Barringer said. "We're seeing a lot of retirees move in. Also both bases (King's Bay and Fort Stewart) bring in a lot of people."

Several million baby boomers will retire in the next seven to 10 years, said Vernon Martin, executive director of the Coastal Georgia RDC. Those from the Northeast see coastal Georgia's average home price of 0,000 as a bargain. Those who suffered through recent hurricane seasons in Florida see Georgia's coast, perhaps mistakenly, as protected.

"People who lived in Florida got those four or five storms. And there's overcrowding," he said. "Demographers call them half backs. They move to Florida and then move halfway back."

Population numbers are pivotal to funding formulas for federal and state monies for items such as roads and schools.

That's why the RDC funded the ,000 study from an academic center. It expects to work with Georgia Tech to update the predictions every two years.

"We need something that's defensible about what population is now and what it's projected to be in the next 20 years," Martin said.

Population also plays into other resources controlled by the state, such as ground water, which is already a hot button issue for developers in coastal Georgia.

Higher populations will make the job of allocating water use and waste water discharge permits even more difficult, according to Nap Caldwell, senior planning and policy advisor at the Georgia Environmental Protection Division.

"It's safe to say it's a new day in how we handle wastewater in Chatham and Effingham even without growth," he said. "Place growth on top of that and you've got some challenges."

Politicians often love positive growth projections. In fact, Chatham County Commission Chairman Pete Liakakis has only one complaint about the report: It may have underestimated growth in Savannah and Chatham County.

Just look at all the new houses popping up on the county's west side, said Liakakis, who is also on the board of the Coastal Georgia RDC.

But not everyone thinks more is necessarily better.

Growth on Tybee worries council member Paul Wolff.

"It's crucial we not allow the kind of development that's been done here to continue because of its cumulative effect on water quality," he said.

A recently published study from Peter Verity of the Skidaway Institute of Oceanography showed declining water quality in the Skidaway River estuary. The data stood on its head a long held paradigm that Georgia's estuaries, with their twice-daily flushing from high tides, could never get to a low oxygen state.

Verity spoke to a Tybee neighborhood group earlier this month and fingered coastal development as a large part of the problem.

"We've had a frontier mentality and that works as long as the population density is low," Verity said. "The way daddy did it is not good anymore."

Newcomers, especially those who have seen environmental degradation in the Northeast, may want to do things differently, according to Will Berson, a policy analyst with the Georgia Conservancy, who himself hails from New Jersey.

"They've seen the first order mistakes," he said. "You may see these come-heres with some pretty definite views about what should happen in land use, planning and the environment that may surprise people."

[Dan Auito]

If only everyone had this type of information to post about their local areas! Outstanding insights posted up Howard, there's a reason the crowds love you. Well Done.

P.S. Great Radio Show today Howard, fantasic radio personality talent on your end my friend. (Your doing good work there!!!)

Folks you need to tune in and say hello to Howard on Saturday mornings, He puts on a great show! http://www.magicbullets.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4328&highlight=spiva+radio

[TommyOH]

Great to see you back posting Howard. Sorry I had to work today, so I missed the show, but I'll be there next week ;)

[SPIVALAW]

Invest in Historic Savannah, Georgia!

There is great interest in our market not only because of the beauty and charm that is Savannah, but also because other real estate markets are not doing as well. Ours is an undervalued and accelerating market.

The Savannah economy benefits from its strategic location and port facilities. The area's transportation and distribution networks have produced increased economic activity and development. Tourism also has been a significant force in Savannah's recent economic growth. Last year Tourists contributed $1.5 Billion to our city's economy. NOW is the time to invest in real estate in Savannah, Georgia.

Top Reasons why Savannah's Economy is RED HOT!

HEADLINES....

"Manufacturing, service, government, tourism, and a growing number of creative and technical businesses characterize Savannah's economic diversity."

The Georgia Ports Authority is expected to move more than 2 million containers by the end of June 2006, which could move Savannah past Charleston to become the No. 4 container port in the country. Savannah Morning News - May 23, 2006

How Savannah Revived its Aging Cargo Port. The Wall Street Journal - August 2005

Savannah - Fastest Growing Port in the USA! Savannah Morning News .pdf

$88 Million Dollars Invested in Private Property near the Downtown area. Savannah Morning News - March 8, 2006

Tourism Numbers are up in 2005. Savannah Morning News - May 27, 2006

Tourists spent $1.5 Billion in Savannah Last Year! Savannah Morning News - June 23rd, 2006

Hunter Army Airfield Grows by 1,300.... "All of our new housing on post is filled and families are looking for places to live." Savannah Morning News - June 30, 2006

Gulfstream Aerospace adding at least 1,100 new jobs. Savannah Morning News - March 7, 2006

West Chatham County is BOOMING! Savannah Morning News - June 4th, 2006

Job Growth makes Savannah's Economy one of the State's Best. Savannah Morning News - May 24th, 2006

Tybee Island's Growth Continues with Luxury Homes. Savannah Morning News - May 30th, 2006

Savannah College of Art and Design (SCAD) continues to improve Historic Downtown. Savannah College of Art and Design

Savannah Out Performs Atlanta! Savannah Morning News - March 8th, 2006

....Why Stop at TEN!

Georgia Pacific's puts $100M in New Savannah Plant! Savannah Business Journal

AirTran Call Center to add more More Jobs in Savannah Savannah Business Journal

Maersk Line Signs 20-Year Agreement with GA Ports Authority Savannah Business Journal

Gulfstream Delivers 100th G550 Business Jet Savannah Business Journal

Memorial Again Named to Most Wired and Most Wireless Lists Savannah Business Journal

Savannah, Fastest Growing Job Market in the State Savannah Economic Development Authority

Ritz-Carlton eyeing Ogeechee River Location Savannah Morning News

STRONG INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT HELPS SAVANNAH SouthEast Real Estate Business

Local Private Schools Investing MILLIONS in Expansion Projects Savannah Morning News

[SPIVALAW]

"Over the next two decades, Georgia's six coastal counties and the next tier of four inland counties are expected to grow to about 844,000 people, a 50 percent increase over today's population, according to a recent report commissioned by the Coastal Georgia Regional Development Center."


Hello Gang :
Bottom line is 800,000 new people need a place to rent, buy, shop, work... Savannah Real Estate has a future.
Howard

'Buy Dry' campaign urges consumers to be wary of homes built in wetlands


Published on SavannahNow.com (http://savannahnow.com)
'Buy Dry' campaign urges consumers to be wary of homes built in wetlands
By Mary Landers
Created 2006-11-18 00:30
Mary Landers [1] | Saturday, November 18, 2006 at 12:30 am
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Site preparation for a subdivision begins in Glynn County. The Altamaha Riverkeeper asks "Where are the houses going to go?"Photo courtesy of James Holland, Altamaha Riverkeeper (Photo: bonnie [3])

Nanette Bradley's Rincon backyard was designated a wetland by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, but she didn't know that when she bought the property. Photo courtesy Georgia Water Coalition.


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Campaign urges consumers to be wary of homes built in wetlands

Wetlands have a memory.

They can be ditched and drained, planted in thirsty pines to dry them up, then converted to subdivisions. But come the next big rain, some revert to their original soggy form.

Ask Nanette Bradley. The 69-year-old Texas native had her dream retirement home constructed in the Lost Plantation subdivision of Rincon. The handsome 3-bedroom stucco house is where she expected to live out her life.

But Bradley won't even unpack the hundreds of boxes she moved there. Before she settled in, she discovered most of her three-quarter acre lot had been designated a wetland by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. A neighbor told her he watched developers fill in a pond on the property while she waited in San Antonio for the house to be built.

The first downpour provided further evidence in her backyard. Her house has stayed dried, but she's still unhappy.

"I'm on a wetland and that's not what I wanted," Bradley said.

Increasingly, stories like Bradley's reflect new development in coastal Georgia, according to a coalition of environmental groups. Beginning today the Georgia Water Coalition and Georgia Watch are launching a campaign to increase consumer awareness of the problem. Called "Buy Dry Land" the campaign seeks to warn consumers that the property they buy in a drought like the one Georgia is now experiencing might not be the same land when rains return.


Local developers are building more often on ditched and drained wetlands because that's the land that's left.

About a tenth of Georgia once was covered in wooded wetlands, much of it in the southeastern portion of the state called the coastal plain, according to Liz Kramer, director of the natural resources spatial analysis laboratory at the University of Georgia's Institute of Ecology.

About one-third of that forested wetland was converted to pine plantation after World War II.

Now, it's more valuable for growing homes.

"The bottom has fallen out of the pulp market," Kramer said. "The land becomes more valuable to sell off as a real estate interest."

Over the next two decades, Georgia's six coastal counties and the next tier of four inland counties are expected to grow to about 844,000 people, a 50 percent increase over today's population, according to a recent report commissioned by the Coastal Georgia Regional Development Center.

Pine plantations are being flipped into housing developments to accommodate the influx.

"Some of them can be restored back to wetlands," said Kramer, who is working with the Georgia Environmental Protection Division to map and prioritize the state's wetlands. "Some can fairly be developed if they can keep it relatively dry through ditching and draining."

It's not always easy for homebuyers to know how dry their land will be. Due diligence for buying a house is more complicated than it seems, said Will Berson of the Georgia Conservancy.

"They may very well be from another part of the country, and it's off their radar screen," he said. "They may have checked that the title's clear. But even if the developer has gotten local approvals and dotted all its i's and crossed its t's, that doesn't mean there aren't going to be problems."

State officials estimate that 70 percent of Georgia's flood plain maps are 20 years or more behind the times. The Georgia Emergency Management Agency blames the increasing flood risk on changing weather patterns and over-development, which reduces the land's natural ability to absorb water.

Whatever the cause, many homeowners don't realize that their property lies in an unmapped flood plain.

Telling consumers about the dangers gives environmental groups the chance to appeal to homeowners' self-interest while preserving critical habitats.

It's a happy marriage of causes for activists who get tired of feeling like they're lecturing.

"Environmentalism is like 'eat your vegetables,'" Berson said. "This is a practical way to help the environment and help people at the same time."

The Georgia Conservancy and a host of other groups are eager to preserve wetlands, which are sinks of biodiversity that also provide flood control, water quality protection and recreational opportunities.

[LUX]

Great info, thanks!

[SPIVALAW]

I have a cool idea.

Anyone here want to form a "Magicbullets Savannah Investment group"?

As you see above Savannah is a great place to invest.
Better yet it is a great place to visit and hold seminar/conventions, etc.

It would give all of us a chance to pursue a common investment.

We could all have a reason (deductible) to travel and meet yearly in Savannah.

Savannah is a great Historic Coastal City.

Members could invest at any level. Even a small 1% ownership would provide all the benefits.

Investing in real estate alone is like going to disney world without children- just not as fun.
-Howard Spiva

This is not a solicitation for funds, we have plenty of investors and banks.

Any thoughts?

[Burke]

I would be interested to hear about how this would work and how it would be structured. Should we start a new thread?

[SPIVALAW]

It would work anyway that we wanted it to.

I just thought it is a cool way for us to connect more.
It would allow some friends to diversify alittle and travel...

Deductible travel to a cool vaction spot - Savannah.
Islands, Beaches, Historic District, tourist location...

All interested investors could travel to Savannah to tour abd view and select a property.
We could have a MB seminar and convention.
No one would have any obligation to invest.
I would host a party for MB folks.
Fun, learn and Earn..

We could make it a real investment or just a small play one.

I would be happy to match the largest investor.

Each investor would own the same % as their down payment.
Ie $100K property $1000 = 1%, $10K = 10%, etc
Or each person could own based on their loan commitment.
Whatever...

We could form a Multi-member LLC (patnership) as the owner of the property.
We each own a %.

If the idea took off and we grew, we could have each new property owned by an individual LLC and the original LLC would own each of those.

Just a thought.

Lets see how the interest runs.

SOMEONE MENTIONED THIS IDEA TO ME AND I AM JUST EXPANDING AND COMMENTING ON IT.
THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION

[Debbie]

We're planning on pulling out most equity in December. Savannah sounds like a good place to put a piece of our money in, preferably with Howard.

Howard, I'll contact you via pm in December.

[SPIVALAW]

my answer to a question someone asked me about ownership levels...

The idea is new and we can make it anyway we choose.
I was just saying we could have ownership of the properties or partnership at any level or %.

If someone only wanted a token investment so they could deduct the travels or just test the waters they could come in low.

One example is I have a property where partners vary from $200K = 40% to $20K = 4%.
Each person gets a K1 at their level.

The investment idea is to give us all a reason to get together and a mutual goal and deductible travel to a great location.

[Burke]

The investment idea is to give us all a reason to get together and a mutual goal and deductible travel to a great location.

And hopefully, a positive return on that investment. :SM083:

[SPIVALAW]

The evaluation of the properties would be done during the visit to Savannah.
I am happy to share my portfolio. Savanah has a great potential.

[Greely]

Howard, I would be interested in this. Could visit property on the way to Ridgeland, SC to the hunting camp.

[SPIVALAW]

COOL
I am not soliciting folks. I dont need loans nor investors.
Savannah has a great market.
I Just thought with Sav market MB family might like a joint venture and a cool (and warm weather) place to meet and vacation and learn and earn...

By the way, Ridgeland SC would be hot today if they had not opted out of an I95 exit back in the 1970s.
Probably some good long term opportunities there today.

Just starting to grow now but Hardeville has a huge head start.

[mike_mn]

Since no one else is willing to say it...I will. Please be careful when entering a partnership agreement with anyone.

My mental notes when looking at ownership percentages.

Lets just say for example that 50 people put in $10000 dollars for a 500k building. Building is rehabbed, turnkey or whatever. Management is put in place. After 6 months, vacancy abounds. New management is hired to turn around the property, but in the mean time a capital call is made for $1000 each investor. Only 30 investors make the capital call. I hope the partnership agreement takes into account all these issues. A 49% ownership in a property gives you little to no rights to make any decisions as to how it is run, and if or when it ever makes money or is sold. If you don't own at least 50% of a property and/or you are not a seasoned investor, Let me suggest you take you money and invest it in a market traded Real Estate Investment Trust. They pay dividends, some as much as 6-8% annually. Some of them increase in share price consistently.

I cannot discount the integrity of Howard or his plan to expand his partnerships with our fambly. I just hope that you all make informed decisions when investing. His suggestion to come to savanna, should be a requirement, not a suggestion, so that people know what they are buying and what the details are.

[SPIVALAW]

LOL. Folks are clearly missing the point here.

I wouldnt let anyone in any deal who doesn't first come to Savannah, see the property, read the LLC agreement, unless they can afford what they invest and can afford to lose it,
is likelable and who I would want to hang out with.
I reject investors.

This idea was just a way for interested friends to get deductible travel to a great location any time (to inspect their property) and start people who maybe intereted in investing in the Savannah market.

You are correct that I have no interest in someone who puts in a small investment, then wants to micromanaging the yard maintence bill one month after a wind storm.

We have a full time in house property manager, an accountant and highly qualified maintence men all on staff.
We also have an outside Property manager, an attorney and a CPA.

We use Clearly worded LLC operating agreements so investors understand their roles.

I was simply suggesting something simple like a single family house in an area that is likely to go commercial in a few years.
Low risk, good rental with a appreciation potential.

Most of my real investment deals are high appreciation and speculation deals like homes on the marsh, water front or commercial property.

This is no place for someone who is searching or needs a 6 to 8% return.
Anyone wanting 1 % or 50% of property would have same % of debt and risk and profit potential.

Our last joint venture, a wearhouse, went in value from $1.5M to $2.5M in 6 months.
The deal before that was an office building thats value went from $2.5M to $4.6M in 24 mths. I am waiting on $6M before I sell it.
I bought a house for $2M and immediately received offers of $2.5M.
I sold a $45K marsh front lot after 5 years for $250K.
I have under contract to sell a $450K church (purchase) for $2.2M.

I always match my investors money as a shared risk and any high amounts invested carry added protection of life insurance.

We have all the money we need from banks and local investors.
I am not soliciting money or partners.

It takes 7 figures from an investor to get my attention and interest.

All can relax.

[SPIVALAW]

Since no one else is willing to say it...I will. Please be careful when entering a partnership agreement with anyone.

I just hope that you all make informed decisions when investing. His suggestion to come to savanna, should be a requirement, not a suggestion, so that people know what they are buying and what the details are.

Good general advice.

However if you read all the above posts you will see the spirit of the idea.
I am not soliciting the public for investment size funds.
I have asked a few friends if they want to do a small deal in a snowless town to make gatherings, seminars, sea side meals and vacations and property inspections all tax deductible.

Someone could accomplish the goal with only $1000 invested.
I would happily return anyones investment anytime.

[stallingsorg]

i like savannah, (chefess) paula and outdoor bass pro shop. thank.

our stallingsorg made of three brother's joint venture our spirit of idea in west palm beach and palm beach.

Since no one else is willing to say it...I will. Please be careful when entering a partnership agreement with anyone.wolmic, you are right,
joint (liability) venture is liable. if stallingsorg go down, we are liable.

[Dan Auito]

You make me want to move to Savannah Howard. Stop that!

[mike_mn]

However if you read all the above posts you will see the spirit of the idea.


The spirit of the idea is good, however, I am sure that enron and world comm investors who bought 10 shares didn't think the ceo's would have gone to jail and their share would be worth jack squat. Neither did the ceo's...

Good intentions don't make for a good thing. Neither does a good or even excellent history.

I just want to make sure everyone takes heed of the advice I have given to do your due diligence well and don't make this your first investment.

BTW, JohnMichael promised to give back peoples investment at any time too...that didn't seem to work out that well for him or his investors here at MB. Not comparing you to JM, but just don't think you are infallible. No one wants to believe it could happen to them. But anything can happen to anyone, especially if most of your RE investments are speculation as you stated.

[stallingsorg]

I just want to make sure everyone takes heed of the advice I have given to do your due diligence well :praise:

[SPIVALAW]

This is starting to get real funny.

Thank you for your advice. I am sure you are helping a lot of newbees from losing their money.

I wasn't looking for any first time investors or any strangers.

I have strong investors and they are all my friends.

Jm and ENron folks were idiots, dishonest and crooks.
I am none of the above.

You don't know me or anything about me. I have never had a foreclosure or bankruptcy or even a late notice on a mortgage in almost 25 years of investing.

I am not interested in anyone's evaluation or opinion of my sucess or financial stability.

As far as my "speculation in real estate", I have a successful law practice that can cash flow any and all of my investments. I also own a real estate brokerage.
Of course my tenants are happy to do that with rent that they pay as well.

My first mistake was to make such an offer on an open forum.
My offer was directed to a few friends.
It was made publicly and it is now withdrawn publicly.

The newbees can go do their do dilligence somewhere besides Savannah.

I am still happy to host a party should MB desire to have a meeting or conference in Savannah.

MAKE IT A GREAT DAY!!!
howard

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[mike_mn]

None is infallable.

Here is to your continued growth and success Howard. :beerchug:


You don't know me or anything about me.
This is as true for me as it is for all the members of MB.

[Debbie]

Mike....:SM034:

[SPIVALAW]

Hello Mike

you have not the slightest idea what I was suggesting with my thoughts here.

I started this thread telling investors facts about an area that is doing well. I have studied Savannah for over 25 years. This type of information could help others in evaluating their own area or exploring places to diversify.

I then got the idea for a few friends who could create a deductible meeting and travel.
Simular to a Trial association in which we hold a seminar at Mardi Gras every year for deductible fun.

I honestly am not looking for investors.
If I needed an investor I would approach indivduals. I have folks all over the country that will and HAVE sent me large checks without even seeing a property. They invest in me not bricks.
If I were looking for investors I would not announce for beginners here.

Much gets lost in Internet posts. No inflexions or body language.
You may want to re-read my original posts.

I never said I was infallable, no one is.
If I were searching for investors, due diligence won't determine the future.

As far as evaluating me, anyone could do so with a simple meeting in person.
Sucess and honesty are about character not assets and financial statements.

As far as knowing me, how do you know who knows me?
Actually, I have several friends on here.

peace

[mike_mn]

I am not questioning what your intentions were or are Howard. You obviously are not understanding me either:rolleyes:

I write a post asking people to make sure they know what you are doing and do their due diligence because partnerships with people that are not known or not well known go bad all the time. You probably know better than me the number of businesses that fail within the first 5 yrs, being a well read lawyer. My interpretation from your response is that you take the defensive by explaining how successful you are and show us all of the businesses you are in and that for 25yrs etc...That is not the point Howard. I have nothing against you, nor was any of my posting relating to you, but partnerships in general, savanna investing just happens to be the topic of discussion and you live there.

You may be a great investor with high integrity, but the fact is that more than 90%(probably more like 99%) of the members/guests here at magic bullets have bought 1 or less properties. They are the ones you are talking to when you write. They hear that an apparent high roller, successful guy may want to partner up with them in his town. He is an attorney with integrity, a rare find, he has explained to us how successful he is and how exciting his area is to invest in. These are the people I am asking to make sure they know what they are doing when entering a partnership. Because, they may have the same charismatic guy in their town that is offering something great there too.


I never said I was infallable, no one is.
As far as evaluating me, anyone could do so with a simple meeting in person.
Sucess and honesty are about character not assets and financial statements.

Why did you, in previous posts, continue to explain how successful you are and what a good partner you have been and that you don't need investors after I suggest that no one is infallible including you, bad things happen to folks who have been more successful than you. I inferred from your response to my statement that you believe that you and your investors and partnerships and businesses will not fail under your guidance. I apologize for not understanding your responses.

Also, the most honest and successful and sincere person with 0 dollars or 10 Billion dollars doesn't necessarily a great partner make. I highly suggest the book On Bullshit by Harry G Frankfurt. He talks about sincerity in there. It is a small book that is a quick read, about 70 pages 4x6 hard back.

Since you don't need investors and are not soliciting, I hope you can understand my take on the situation. If not, hey...carry on.

Peace Back Atcha

[SPIVALAW]

You are a great gate keeper.

I wasn't intending to brag nor was I making any personal attacks.
I didnt site any numbers of my assets or income.
I did give a few examples of recent deals to show that I am not a beginner.
I listed some of my web pages so folks could judge for themselves.

I don't apologize for being sucessful. I came from a poor family and have worked hard since I was 11 years old.

Clearly any answer I give makes me look bad.
I just didnt like the company you put me with in your response where you cautioned folks about being careful.

I have no interest in partnering with strangers or newbees.
I only do deals with friends.
I do deals because they are fun and profitable.

I don't need to borrow or have investors from anyone here,

if I allowed them Bankers would feed me free every day. I wish they were that way 25 years ago when I was broke.

May the force be with you.
h

[mike_mn]

You are a great gate keeper.
Due to the content of this board and the knowledge and experience level of its largest population of viewers(newbs), unfortunately, this is a necessary role.

I hope all that take you up on the offer of visiting Savanna, enjoy their stay. It sounds like a nice place.

[Debbie]

Mike,

I acknowledge you're attempting to forewarn the inexperienced investors/investors to be. That is common sense. Your input is appreciated.

However, there's a difference between giving common sense advice and comparing Howard to other guilty parties. That is an unfair statement.

It is common sense as well as good business that all interested parties should have their attorney to look over any potential investment business BEFORE signing any papers.

I've met Howard personally. I've communicated with Howard from afar and in person. There's no doubt in my mind that Howard would encourage any investors to have their attorney to read all involved documents and proposals.

Jeff and I are interested. We plan to visit Savannah in 2007. Heck, my mom-in-law already have her trip planned in the near future with her friends to Savannah.

Bottom line.....if we decide to invest with Howard, we will have my attorney brother to read all documents prior to our signatures. I know Howard would NOT be offended. If we choose not to invest with Howard, it will NOT be because of Howard's reputation. It will be because the potential investment(s) may not fit our wants/needs.

[SPIVALAW]

Mike: Lets please stop beating this poor dead horse.


Deb see you in savannah.

[JeanOH]

Hi Howard

I've been reading this forum for about a week and was finally able to register--for some reason my yahoo email was banned so I used my REI website email.

I would be very interested in meeting you and other MB's in Savannah and look at investment properties.

I was quite surprised and happy to see that you posted here. I was on a asset protection teleseminar and your name was mentioned and discussed--all good--so I'm happy to be able to learn from you.

See you in Savannah and thx for the opportunity.


Jean

[Dan Auito]

Sorry about the yahoo thing Jean, but we had to ban them as a provider due to the volume of spam that came from that provider. Welcome to the family!

[Debbie]

I've been reading this forum for about a week and was finally able to register

Jean,

Welcome to the Magic Bullets Fambly!

Methinks that you have more "Magic Bullets Relatives" living near you than I do (I have none :frown: ). But do enjoy your new relatives! :grin:

[SPIVALAW]

Hello Jean:

Welcome!!

Id be happy to host an MB get together, show folks around town and even speak on asset protection.

We could have a party....I have a couple of places on the river great for a low country boil (crabs, corn, shrimp and potatoes).

My office has rooms that can house meetings or seminars of over 300 people in one room.

My home is on a private island and is also cool for entertaining.

To solidify my sincerity, and hopefully credibility and to put people's minds at ease, I have nothing to sell (no books, tapes, or entities) no real estate partnership would be available. All could look at Savannah properties and judge for themselves if Savannah has a promising future.

Just some fun and fellowship.

Howard