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ThreeRiversREI
01-20-2007, 04:53 AM
Kitchen facelift starts with cabinets

Tips on sizing, accessories, pricing

Friday, January 19, 2007

By Paul Bianchina
Inman News (http://www.inman.com/hstory.aspx?ID=61447)

Once upon a time, cabinets were site-built by the carpenters building the house. Today, in addition to the custom cabinets offered by cabinet shops, you can take advantage of the many lines of beautiful modular cabinets being offered by home centers, lumberyards, kitchen shops and other retailers.

Modular cabinets are individual pre-manufactured cabinets that are joined together to form a complete kitchen. You'll find wall cabinets in different heights, base cabinets in every conceivable configuration, tall cabinets that span from the floor to the upper cabinets, and every type of trim piece, molding, filler and panel needed to complete the installation. Modular cabinets are now offered in an amazing array of styles, sizes, wood types, and stain and paint colors, along with an equally amazing selection of accessories. Whatever the size and architectural style of your home and no matter how you want to utilize your kitchen, you'll find modular cabinets that will fit the bill.

MEASURE IT UP

The first step with any modular kitchen installation is to accurately measure the kitchen. This is something you can do yourself initially so that you can have some basic information to use when first meeting with the designer, but in order to ensure that your order is complete and accurate, most modular cabinet suppliers will then want to make a site visit and do more detailed measurements and layouts on their own. Also, if you have the store place your order off of your measurements, you're typically stuck if the cabinets you specified are not the right size for the space. If they do the measurements, then it becomes their responsibility.

Make your measurements from drywall to drywall, since this is where the cabinets will be installed -- measuring between rough framing can lead to errors. In addition to the overall size of the room and the length and height of each wall, you'll want to make note of the centerline of windows and plumbing, the location of doors, and any other significant features of the room that will enter into the cabinet planning and layout. For ease of drawing, use graph paper with a convenient grid size.

With a basic sketch in hand, sit down with a modular cabinet specialist. You'll want to begin your selection process by deciding on which cabinet line you want to work with, since different manufacturers have different sizes of cabinets and different accessories to select from. Since the overall appearance of the finished kitchen is the most important consideration, when choosing the cabinet line you like, first take into consideration the style of the cabinet and the woods and colors available.

Next, take a close look at an actual sample of the cabinet, so you can see the level of quality and workmanship you can expect. You will find there are differences in the materials used -- the amount of plywood, particleboard and solid lumber being the key factors -- as well as the types of drawer slides, hinges, hardware, and even the assembly joints being employed.

When you've zeroed in a cabinet line you like, let the designer see if the cabinets that manufacturer offers are going to work with what you have in mind for your specific room before you get too far into the whole design process. If the cabinets you need to get the look you want are simply not available from that manufacturer, then switch to another line of cabinets.

Accessories are the next step. Cabinet manufacturers offer wine racks, spice holders, flour drawers, roll-out shelves -- just about anything you can visualize for making your new kitchen really fit your lifestyle. Accessories can add a tremendous amount of convenience and functionality to your kitchen, but they can also add dramatically to the overall cost, so focus on those items you really need first. Also, some accessories can be added after the fact, so you might want to consider adding other things in the future as time and budget permit.

After the designer has made a site visit, measured the room, and discussed any design and layout options, he or she will work up a set of computerized drawings for you. It's very important that you spend some time studying the layouts at this point, because this is the time to make changes to anything that doesn't look or fit right. You will see a two-dimensional plan view of how the cabinets will lay out, as well as three-dimensional views from several different perspectives that will give you a much better idea of how the finished kitchen will look.

The final stage is pricing and ordering. Your designer will provide you with a detailed breakdown of costs, including all accessories, delivery charges, and installation if desired. Make sure you fully understand exactly what has been specified and what will be ordered, as well as when and how the cabinets will be delivered to your site. This is a huge investment, so take the time now to review and understand your order so you can avoid any unpleasant surprises when that big truck shows up in your driveway!

Remodeling and repair questions? E-mail Paul at paul2887@hughes.net.

ThreeRiversREI
02-03-2007, 09:55 AM
Once you have the cabinets, you need counters, right? Hard to beat the look of granite, but it is SO expensive that it breaks a lot of rehab budgets. This sounds like it could be an economical alternative, potentially giving all the bang but for decidedly fewer bucks.

I have no experience using this material and haven't even started doing any cost comparisons of my own. It is presented here to hopefully spark ideas for other rehabbers and maybe even some suggestions on how to look "champaign" on a "beer budget" particularly for those transition neighborhoods that will not yet support "champaign prices".

Quartz: a countertop surface that rocks

Engineered quartz a nice alternative to granite

Friday, February 02, 2007

By Paul Bianchina
Inman News (http://www.inman.com/hstory.aspx?ID=61966)

If you're thinking of building or remodeling a kitchen, one of the tough questions you'll be facing is what material to use for the counters. One product that definitely needs to make the list of possibilities is engineered quartz, which offers the striking natural beauty of granite without all the drawbacks of natural stone.

Engineered quartz is made from approximately 93-95 percent natural quartz, with the remaining 5-7 percent consisting of resins and pigments. Natural quartz is first ground to small particles of varying sizes, then mixed to specific color and size blends, and combined with the resins. The resulting mixture is then molded into slabs, and the slabs are then vibrated and compressed while a vacuum removes air, all of which is designed to eliminate air pockets and create a very hard and dense material. The slabs are then heat-cured, rolled to specific thicknesses, and polished to a beautiful sheen.

This carefully controlled manufacturing process results in a finished material that does not have many of the problems associated with all-natural stone counters such as granite. Engineered quartz counters are very hard and very dense, are resistant to knife cuts, and do not require ongoing application of sealers to prevent the staining common to porous natural stone. Because the air pockets have been removed, engineered quartz counters do not have fissures and cracks, and are also more heat-resistant. All this combines to create a counter with the natural beauty of real stone, but in a material that manufacturers can warranty for reliable performance.

CHOICES ABOUND

Thanks to the careful selection and blending of the quartz crystals and the addition of specific pigments, engineered quartz counters come in a variety of colors, with grain patterns that range from fairly soft to a little bolder. As with natural stones, the color combinations offered by the various manufacturers are somewhat similar but also different enough that it pays to check out a few different samples.

In addition to selecting your color and pattern, you will be offered a choice of several different edge treatments. Standard edges include square and bullnose, with available upgrades such as beveled, double and triple bullnoses, and even custom edges. Be forewarned, however, that those upgraded edges can be quite expensive, and will add considerably to the overall cost of the installation.

One very popular option that's definitely worth considering is an undermount sink. Undermount sinks do not have the overlapping edge common to most sinks that drop in from above. Instead, the top of the sink is flat to allow it to seat up against the underside of the counter. A hole of a specific size and layout is cut into the counter; the edges of the hole are rounded over and polished; and the sink is then set from below and sealed into place. The result is a cleaner, sleeker countertop without that dirt-catching sink edge to contend with.

With the increase in popularity, most plumbing fixture manufacturers now offer a variety of undermount sinks. You'll find single-, double-, and triple-bowl combinations in stainless steel, enameled cast iron, enameled steel, and composites, all in different bowl shapes and colors. You will, however, need to make your selection early, since the fabricators will need to have the specific sink available in order to correctly cut the counter.

DO-IT-YOURSELF IS NOT AN OPTION

No matter how ambitious you might be, undertaking the installation of an engineered quartz counter is not an option. Accurately cutting and fitting these big, heavy slabs requires specialized tools and training, and the manufacturers require their installers to be factory trained.

Once your cabinets have been installed -- or, in the case of a remodeling project, once the old counters have been removed from the existing cabinets -- the fabricators will make a site visit to create templates. Using sheets of corrugated plastic, they will carefully cut, fit and glue up an exact replica of your counters, including the location of sinks and other cutouts. These exact templates are then given to the manufacturer, and the slabs are precision cut to match, a process that can typically take one to two weeks.

Once the slabs have been cut, an installation team will do the final fitting. Small adjustments will be made on-site as needed, then the counters will be installed using a sealant that adheres them to the top of the cabinets. Larger kitchens will typically require seams between some of the slabs, but a good installer will carefully place the seams where they will be the least visible, and then blend color putties to make the seams all but disappear.

Engineered quartz counters are available from several manufacturers, including Silestone, Cambria, Zodiaq and CaesarStone. For more information, including dealer locations, you can check the specific manufacturer Web sites or look in the Yellow Pages under "Counter Tops."

Remodeling and repair questions? E-mail Paul at paul2887@hughes.net.

Debbie
02-03-2007, 04:35 PM
Quartz: a countertop surface that rocks

Engineered quartz a nice alternative to granite



I LOVE Quartz countertop!!!

In the process of looking at countertop for our upcoming new home, I just fell in love with the Quartz.

Now, I have NEVER been a fan of granite for several reasons.

But Quartz? OMG!!! They are the most beautiful thing I've ever seen for countertop! It reminds me of sand at the California beach where the sun shines it, giving that shiny spots. Plus, it lasts a long time!

Currently, hubby is going for laminate (cause it's cheaper) whereas I believe Quartz is the better deal in the long run.

This is where I will need your help----send an email or post at MB convincing Jeff that it's more expensive in the long run by starting with laminate! Pretty please?

LEE - LJ
02-03-2007, 07:30 PM
Debbie --

Have you ever looked at Silestone?? Similiar to Quartz but it's a little cheaper.

Your local Home Depot should have a complete display center.

I put it in my kitchen about 18 months ago and my wife loves it!!!

Check it out and let me know what you think.

Lee

Debbie
02-03-2007, 08:20 PM
Debbie --

Have you ever looked at Silestone?? Similiar to Quartz but it's a little cheaper.

Your local Home Depot should have a complete display center.

I put it in my kitchen about 18 months ago and my wife loves it!!!

Check it out and let me know what you think.

Lee

We'd LOVE to check into it......we've viewed Silestone (via pamphlets & internet) but no sample here in Springfield.

We've checked into several different places such as Lowes, Menard, Home Superior, Builder's places, Plumber stores, Tile stores, Cabinet stores, etc with no success.

Home Depot does not exist in Springfield. Nearest one is about an hour drive. :frown:

ThreeRiversREI
02-04-2007, 12:00 AM
In the process of looking at countertop for our upcoming new home, I just fell in love with the Quartz.

Now, I have NEVER been a fan of granite for several reasons.

But Quartz? OMG!!! They are the most beautiful thing I've ever seen for countertop! It reminds me of sand at the California beach where the sun shines it, giving that shiny spots. Plus, it lasts a long time!

Currently, hubby is going for laminate (cause it's cheaper) whereas I believe Quartz is the better deal in the long run.

This is where I will need your help----send an email or post at MB convincing Jeff that it's more expensive in the long run by starting with laminate! Pretty please?

I'll see what I can do about Jeff, but a lot is going to depend on HOW it's used, not to mention how the counter will fit in with the quality of the kitchen and the standard of quality in the neighborhood (for resale).

Laminate IS cheap, and looks it, and will give the impression that the kitchen & home around it is also cheaply done, regarldess of the quality of material OR workmanship to the contrary.

Personally, I don't think I'll EVER use laminate in a rehab. Tile would be my cheap, low end material.

My favorite material for a counter, though, is actually the solid surface stuff, particularly with under-mount solid surface sinks (and in the kitchen, the routered-in drain board). SSV is, in my mind, just another laminate so not something I seriously consider.

Not sure how Solid Surface impresses buyers, so for higher end, I probably would have been trying to make granite work. Now, I'll be considering quartz.

What I need to make some calls to work out is an approximate cost per linear foor installed for each of the following:
Tile
Solid Surface
Granite
Quartz
Concrete


Ah, well. Something to keep me out of trouble on Monday.

k6saunde
02-04-2007, 07:02 AM
To get the Granite look without the granite slab price you can always go with 12x12 granite floor tiles.

Place them a "dimes" thickness apart and use like colored grout to fill in the cracks. For the edges you can use wood, stainless steel, or more granite tile.

If you are going to use more granite tiles for the edges of the counter top. You can take your tiles to a granite supply shop and have the edges rounded like bullnose ceramic tile.To keep from having sharp edges and give it a more professional appearance.

Its much less expensive than a granite slab and only slightly more expensive than ceramic tile.

It gives the kitchen a higher end look without the high end price.

Dan Auito
02-04-2007, 07:32 AM
If we didn't go with Laminate the two kids would have broken 100 glasses by now, not to mention a set of ceramic bowls as well. Granite once the kiddies go off to college for us.

TommyOH
02-04-2007, 12:22 PM
Laminate has it's place...in your rentals. I have used laminate many, many times, but as Darren stated, where the house and neighborhood dictates. You won't see much laminate in the suburbs and such, but lots of it in the city.

Debbie
02-04-2007, 01:55 PM
If we didn't go with Laminate the two kids would have broken 100 glasses by now, not to mention a set of ceramic bowls as well. Granite once the kiddies go off to college for us.

Pssst! By the time your kids are in college, granite will be passe. (where's that apostrophe above the e?)

Debbie
02-04-2007, 01:56 PM
Laminate has it's place...in your rentals. I have used laminate many, many times, but as Darren stated, where the house and neighborhood dictates. You won't see much laminate in the suburbs and such, but lots of it in the city.

In our village, we noticed many now have ceramic tiles on their countertop. We're going marble countertop!