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TheShortSaleHouse
02-08-2008, 01:18 AM
I have a good friend who had a property cross-collateralized to one that had both he and his aunt on title.

The hard money lender never had the aunt sign any documents stating that she was ok with this and he only had a single one page dosumnet signed by the other title holder on the property that was cross-collateralized.

If I haven't lost you yet, with the turn of events in the marketplace, my friend can't sell the property for what he has into it (for the original property that he got the hard money loan against), was taken advantage of by the contractor who had initially worked on the property and the property still needs roughly $40k of work to be in "sellable" condition.

The hardmoney lender is stating that he is going to go after the property that was cross-collateralized and start a foreclosure process to secure his interest in it.

It is my understanding that with the Aunt not signing acknowledgement or consent to have a lien placed on the cross-collateralized property, that this would not be legal.

Essentially this is my question. Can this be done by the hard money lender?

My friend is lookign for an attorney to speak to and possibly hold as counsel because he is not sure on what to do.

I advised him on a few methods that would help further protect him but he would like to speak to an attorney or get some more advice/input first.

I'd like to have multiple opinions on this before I have him speak to one of my attorneys.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Daniel

Jim Johnson
02-08-2008, 03:44 AM
I have a good friend who had a property cross-collateralized to one that had both he and his aunt on title.

The hard money lender never had the aunt sign any documents stating that she was ok with this and he only had a single one page dosumnet signed by the other title holder on the property that was cross-collateralized.

If I haven't lost you yet, with the turn of events in the marketplace, my friend can't sell the property for what he has into it (for the original property that he got the hard money loan against), was taken advantage of by the contractor who had initially worked on the property and the property still needs roughly $40k of work to be in "sellable" condition.

The hardmoney lender is stating that he is going to go after the property that was cross-collateralized and start a foreclosure process to secure his interest in it.

It is my understanding that with the Aunt not signing acknowledgement or consent to have a lien placed on the cross-collateralized property, that this would not be legal.

Essentially this is my question. Can this be done by the hard money lender?

My friend is lookign for an attorney to speak to and possibly hold as counsel because he is not sure on what to do.

I advised him on a few methods that would help further protect him but he would like to speak to an attorney or get some more advice/input first.

I'd like to have multiple opinions on this before I have him speak to one of my attorneys.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Daniel

If I read this right, the hard money lender can go after your friends interest in the shared asset.

For example... I can deed my interest (share) in a property over without the other people on the deed releasing their shares... but I am not an attorney... just a investor...

TheShortSaleHouse
02-08-2008, 02:54 PM
I told him that could be a possibility. It seems as if the lender is trying to force a foreclosure though.

TheShortSaleHouse
02-08-2008, 03:25 PM
My friend doesn't care if they take his portion, he is willing to suck it up to experience and a bad investment he just wants to make sure that his Aunt is safe.

The Aunt and he, I think are on good terms and he didn't know that she woud have to sign as well. This hard money lender cross-collateralized against three properties total (I think) and this one with the Aunt is the only one that now has equity (only $30k owed against it).

I'll give him these facts posted here as well.

Thanks

Michael Quarles
02-08-2008, 04:12 PM
Daniel... What is the vesting on the properties in question? This would surprise me if he could foreclose since a TD is a voluntary vehical and the aunt did not agree. Unlike a Mechanics lien... And since there isnt a community property issue with the aunt I would think not...

I do have a Hard MOney lender who is an Attorney and a CPA if you need his number... I am certain he would know...

TheShortSaleHouse
02-08-2008, 04:16 PM
That would be great as long as he is versed in CA. If you'd give me his number, I'll do a three way.

Thanks